Gantt criticizes Jesse Helms for not having debated since 1984 and not being in touch with his constituency anymore. Gantt is speaking to someone and answering questions (perhaps over the phone), but only Gantt is audible. This interview is likely to have taken place right after Gantt won the Democratic nomination. The interview ends, and a recording of a debate with Charlie Sanders begins at around 9:30 into the recording. They discuss each of their ideas including healthcare costs and drug companies.